December 19, 2005
Planning Board Minutes
Oswego Town Hall
Chair: Judy Sabin-Watson
Town Board Members: Francis Dellamano, Kenneth Kern,
Lee Phillips, Barry Pritchard, Jeffrey Boyer, James Finn
Attorney To The Board: Stephen Greene, Jr.
At approximately 7:05 PM, Judy Watson, Chairman, called the Planning Board Meeting to order.
Those in attendance were:
Approval of November 21, 2005 Minutes:
Fran asked if there were any comments or corrections to the minutes of November 21, 2005. Ken Kern stated his name was omitted from those attending last months meeting, and he was in attendance. Barry Pritchard made a motion that we approve the Minutes of November 21, 2005 with the correction. Jeff Boyer seconded the motion. All ayes. Motion carried.
Fran Dellamano questioned a sign he saw at the old Jarvis Garage, that it is for rent or sale. He also wondered how long John Bush had been gone from there. Jeff Boyer said he thinks it has been less that a year. Steve Greene suggested that we contact the present owner, and find out what is going on.
No one from the public was present.
Open Board Discussion:
Fran opened the discussion of the Revision of the Zoning Regulations on Signs, Awning and Canopies. He said this section is very complicated, and we need to simplify it. Some places mention 2 feet signs, and others state 3 feet. Then it mentions temporary signs, and permanent signs. Let's come up with some square footage. We can list definitions and measurements right at the top of this section. Temporary signs could be for a garage sale, a wedding or baby shower. Barry Pritchard stated real estate signs, and signs for contractors and builders are also temporary signs. Jim Finn said a temporary sign should show a surface area of 3 square feet. Jeff Boyer said temporary signs should be 6 months in duration. Fran said we should leave "temporary" out. Barry Pritchard said temporary signs could be for advertising. When is it not a temporary sign? Fran said we should combine all these definitions in one sentence, and put it near to top of the first page, for the purpose of advertising, sale of property, building or contractors, sale of lots in a subdivision, and sale of products grown. He repeated that a temporary sign shall be no larger than 3 square feet.
After some discussion, it was determined that C.(3); (4); and (5) should be deleted. C.(6); (7); and (8) should be moved to the front page near the top.
On Page 2 - Signs in Industrial Districts - Signs in Commercial Districts; and Page 3, down as far as Churches, will be defined under definitions on the front page, so these sections should be deleted. Church signs should also be put on the front page.
Fran said we would skip over Awnings and Canopies for now, and go to Page 5. He said we should talk about directional signs. Can we have directional signs 500 feet ahead? Steve Greene said we should write in non-nuisance character as to directional signs, on Page 5 (A)(1), A(2)(a) should be left in, and (3) should be stricken. B should be left in, and put on the front page; and C should be scratched. Page 6 (2) and (3) should be scratched.
Also to be put on the front page is "No sign shall interfere with motor vehicles along the road". It will have to be written the correct way, but that is the idea.
Fran then jumped back to Awning and Canopies. The purpose (A) shall remain as is. (B) Definitions - Awnings and/or Canopies; the first sentence should read - "Moveable or fixed ornamental structures" - leave "roof-like" out. Page 4 C (1) - Leave just the first sentence in - "A building permit is required for the placement of awnings and/or canopies." Delete the rest of the paragraph, as well as (2); (3) and (4). Also delete D on Page 4. This will be put on Page 1 up front.
Ken Kern questioned the meaning of durable material for an awning. Would it be plastic, fabric or aluminum? Fran stated there should be something in the Building Code. Illumination of signs should also be put on the front page.
Fran brought up the subject of billboards. There are no regulations on billboards, and we don't want any in the Town. There are a couple that are grand fathered in. Steve suggested that the secretary call Judy, to get in touch with the County Planning Board regarding the definitions of a billboard. It would seem it would have to be a Special Use Permit.
The members then discussed what sections we would go over at the January meeting, and it was decided we would go with Special Use Permits, and Planning Board at the end of the section we went over tonight.
At approximately 8:35 PM, Jim Finn made a motion to adjourn the meeting. Ken Kern seconded the motion. All ayes. Motion carried.
Secretary to Planning Board