May 15, 2006
Planning Board Minutes
Oswego Town Hall
Chair: Judy Sabin-Watson
Town Board Members: Francis Dellamano, Kenneth Kern,
Lee Phillips, Barry Pritchard, Jeffrey Boyer, James Finn
Attorney To The Board: Stephen Greene, Jr.
Call to Order:

At approximately 7:03 PM, Judy Watson, Chairman of the Planning Board called the meeting to order.


Those in attendance were:
Judy Sabin-Watson
Francis Dellamano
Lee Phillips
Barry Pritchard
Kenneth Kern
Jeffrey Boyer
Stephen Greene, Jr.
Marjorie Best
Those absent were:
Member James Finn
Old Business:

Approval of April 17, 2006 Minutes:

The secretary apologized for the looks of the minutes, being completed with both computer and an old typewriter. She was off line for a couple of weeks because of getting a new computer, so had to go to the library, which she was allowed half an hour at a time, so did some home on an old Smith Corona typewriter.

Jeff Boyer stated he was in attendance on April 17th, but his name was omitted from the minutes. Also, the secretary stated that it should be approval of the March 20th Minutes. Jeff Boyer made a motion that we approve the April 17th, 2006 minutes as corrected. Lee Phillips seconded the motion. All ayes. Motion carried.

New Business:

Public Comment:

No one from the public was present.

Open Board Discussion:

Judy asked the members if they had a chance to look over the revisions to the Zoning Ordinance which the secretary retyped. She said she was satisfied as she compared them with her scratched up notes.

Fran Dellamano stated we should wait until we define the zones before we make all the revisions and definitions. We have to know if there are two residential districts or three. Barry Pritchard said there are four residential zones. Lee Phillips asked who is going to specify the definitions. Judy said that would come from the County Planning Board. Judy said the secretary said Theresa talked to her this afternoon, wanting to meet with County Planning, Judy, Vicky, Greg and herself to get back on track.

Fran said he had done his homework, and has lots of questions regarding definitions. One being dumping which we don't have a definition for. Judy said when the project is finished, we will have a glossary of terms and definitions. Fran said another question is fencing. What about a business district - a junk yard. Some have a 6 foot fence with barbed wire. Some fences should be higher than 6 feet. Barry mentioned 8 foot fences for security. Lee mentioned 6 foot fences, as an example, on his own property. He has 2 feet on the bottom and 4 feet on top. You have gaps at the bottom, and there is the lay of the land.

Another subject Fran brought up is about horses. What about electric fences in a residential area? He said from what he read, he could have a flock of pigs, or a bunch of cows in a residential area, but what about 3 horses. Jeff Boyer said it would depend on the acreage. Fran said they can put a barn 150 feet from the boundary line, yet a manure pile can be put next to the boundary. We have the health and welfare of the people, and that is what health is all about - manure. He said we need to present these revisions to people so they will make sense. Judy said we have a long ways to go before we finish the project.

Back to horses, Fran said he hates to refer to acreage as far as feeding hay, and not pasture. Again, we must know where the zones are. If you have an area that is highly residential such as a subdivision - but if someone has 2 acres, do they want to get a horse? We need to tailor the areas to the zones. Also, if someone is driving a tractor-trailer at night and wants to park it, it seems to him in an R-2 or R-3, if they gave a parking area big enough for a tractor trailer, they need a road that is big enough to handle them. Again, Fran said we have to do this in zones before we go any further. R-1 is very high class; R-2 is more or less open space. If you want a horse, you have to put it in a stable like the high class people do. Barry Pritchard said we have a few riding stables in the town. They can board them at one of the stables and ride them there.

Fran said we should look at the Comprehensive Plan Map, and see what the zones are going to be. Some of the members had a little colored map with them, and the secretary had the large one with her. The members looked it over to distinguish the zones. Kenn Kern noted that it was dated September 14, 2004. Fran said he had worked on that map. The zones are color coded, as Agricultural, Conservation, Rural Transitional, Residential Commercial and Industrial.

Fran especially wanted to point out the residential districts. He also said wetlands and flood plains are delineated as Conservation. You can't really build on them, unless by Special Permit. He also brought up signs in residential areas. Does the sign size relate to the printed area? It doesn't really say. Barry said it would be the size of the sign itself.

Barry asked if we would make the Comprehensive Map to tie in with the Zoning Map. The secretary said at one of the Zoning Meetings, it was discussed about doing an "overlay map". Fran said perhaps we could do an overlay map with zones. He said it should be discussed with the Supervisor and whoever else is involved in our pursuit of new zoning. The Comprehensive Map refers to the future, and a Zoning Map would be present.

Steve Greene said he told the members at last month's meeting that he would draft up a Performance Bond regarding towers, telecommunications and windmills. He said he had worked on it, and has started putting stipulations in it. He said he would finish it up, and get it to the secretary. He said a $3,000 Bond would go about $300 for 20 years.

After more discussion on windmills and towers, Judy said she would get in touch with everyone, meet with them and come up with some definitions, and go over the zoning map. Fran asked her to check to see if there is any problem with the land map. Judy asked the Secretary to bring the map to the Zoning Board Meeting Thursday, spread it out, and ask if there are any problems with zoning tying into the Comprehensive Map.

Judy said Marge had something to discuss which came up this afternoon, and asked her to explain it. Marge told the Board she received a call from Theresa Cooper asking about a Public Hearing tonight for Jeff Draper for a Special Permit. She said she had never received a thing on Jeff Draper. Theresa went into the CEO's Office and found the folder in a drawer which should have been turned over to Theresa, and then to Marge. Marge went to Town Hall, picked up the folder, and Theresa suggested bringing it up for review at the meeting to see if anything else is needed to prepare for a public hearing for June. Marge could already see a Site Plan is needed which the board members verified. Theresa also told Marge that the owner of the property was going to send a statement. Steve said we should have the owner of the property sign the application, as well as Mr. Draper.

Steve said he has a conflict with the meeting for June 19th, so asked if we could have it on the 12th or 26th. Kenn Kern said he would not be able to attend on the 12th, so it was agreed we would meet on June 26th if the Town Hall is available.


At approximately 8:00 PM, Lee Phillips made a motion to adjourn the meeting. Kenn Kern seconded the motion. All ayes. Motion carried.

Respectfully submitted,

Marjorie Best,
Secretary to Planning Board
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