April 16, 2007
Planning Board Minutes
Oswego Town Hall
Chair: Jeffrey Boyer
Town Board Members: Judy Sabin-Watson, Francis Dellamano,
Lee Phillips, Barry Pritchard, James Finn
Attorney To The Board: Stephen Greene, Jr.
Call to Order:

At approximately 7:00 PM, Chairman Jeffrey Boyer called the meeting to order.


Those in attendance were:
Jeffrey Boyer
Judy Sabin-Watson
Francis Dellamano
Lee Phillips
Barry Pritchard
James Finn
Stephen Greene, Jr.
Marjorie Best
Old Business:

Approval of April 10, 2007 Minutes:

Jeff Boyer asked if there were any corrections to the April 10, 2007 Minutes. Fran Dellamano had some discrepancies as follows: The last paragraph on Page 1. "review a Site Plan for the proposed college housing project" should read "review a Site Plan for the proposed student housing project"

Fran questioned the terminology of calling a building a lodge. Jeff said the United Group referred to the 4 story building as a lodge. Fran then referred to Page 2 - 13th line, stating the apartment buildings would slope up the road. He said it doesn't make sense saying the buildings slope up. A slope goes down. Again, it should state student housing project instead of apartments. Jeff said it should state "The lodge will be on the upper elevation of the property.

On Page 2 - Line 9, refers to a 4 story lodge and the housing units would be 3 stories. It should state the number of 3 story buildings, which is four 3 story buildings, and the lodge. Fran said on Page 2, last line of the second paragraph, he did not recall if United Group referred to pine clapboard siding. Jeff Boyer said we should delete that line. On Page 2 - last line of the first paragraph - "There will also be laundry rooms available". Fran said he imagines it would be a laundry facility in each building.

On Page 4, Bill Dunsmoor - last sentence - "There would be negotiations between the Town and United Group to work it all out - and the sentence before that mentions Empire Zone, but Fran said he doesn't know what it relates to. Also in the same paragraph about the sewer district, he said at first it didn't cost the residents anything. Fran said he isn't sure that is correct. Bill Dunsmoor was at this meeting, and explained what he had said. Fran said it should all be worked out with the engineers of the Ontario Heights Sewer District.

Fran Dellamano made a motion to approve the April 10, 2007 Minutes with corrections. Barry Pritchard seconded the motion. All ayes. Motion carried.

Chairman Boyer then started discussing with the Planning Board Members, issues that were brought up by the public at the last meeting. Fran said we should make a list of the issues; for example, drinking water, wildlife and traffic on County Route 7 and State Route 104, which is a real problem, both vehicular and pedestrian traffic. Perhaps there should be some lighting on the roads, and some sidewalks. The matter should be worked out with the Sheriff and the State Police. Other issues should be water run off and security. He said with security, there should be a committee to come up with a security plan.

Jeff made a list, and the members addressed each issue. The public in attendance was also allowed to speak:


Mary Fitch:

She said a few years back Ontario Heights had an agreement with the College Police, the Chief being Tom Ryan, if they had a problem. Fran suggested we talk with Mo Todd.

Fire Protection:

Barry Pritchard said United Group and Scott Pritchard of the Fire Department are working together on a solution. Jeff Boyer said he will ask for a written plan from the Fire District.


Jeff Boyer said this issue will include vehicle traffic and pedestrian traffic. He said he would get a proposal from United Group for our consideration. The DOT should also get involved. Fran said we should get the engineers involved also. We have to have a meeting of the minds with the Town, City, County and State.


Barry Pritchard said there will be an agreement with OCWA. They will be running a line from Byer Road. Jeff said again, we will get something in writing.

Water Runoff:

Jeff said Barton and Loguidice are involved in this matter. John DeHollander, Director of Soil and Water Conservation attended the meeting, and said a State Permit would be required. The DEC would be involved.


Jeff said we will get a written proposal on the sewer. The County Health Department would be involved.


Jeff stated we would have An environmental assessment for the SEQRA process. John DeHollander said the DEC would get involved in this concern also. Fran said this should require a letter in writing also. Someone should come here and look over the situation, and see what the impact would be. Game Wardens around here know the area.

Lighting on Johnson Road:

Fran stated United Group said the complex would be well lighted. He said pedestrian traffic to the college should also be well lighted. Jim Finn said they will have people coming in and out of the development We should request United Group to put adequate street lighting for the length of their road frontage.

Economic Impact:

Jeff said it is the jurisdiction of the Planning Board to give comments on the Site Plan. Jim Finn asked what the economic impact would include. Jeff said pros and cons. Lee Phillips said the economic impact would affect the whole town.

Don Neels:

He wondered what this project would open the doors to - another development across the street? How many dorms are empty on the campus? Why do they need 400 rooms? How many apartments are empty?

Pat Tyrie:

She said she has done some research and made some phone calls. She also presented a petition to the Board. She had also looked at the website, and the Oswego project is already listed.

Fran Dellamano said a lot of these comments don't concern the Planning Board. We are Site Plan Review.

Sam Cernaro:

He said this project will bring other businesses, and more congestion - probably someone will open up a bar near the project.

Mary Fitch:

Mary again mentioned the traffic this project would cause. Even now, there is enough traffic with people going to work over all the streets and roads, and with 700 new students, it would be worse. The walking traffic would be going right through their neighborhood. She hopes the Board will consider their feelings. There are no sidewalks on any of the streets in their area - not Franklin, not Draper nor Baylis.

Jeff went back to Economic Impact - how are we going to go through this. He was open for ideas.

Charles Mullen:

He asked if there would be an independent study on this, and Jeff said he would look into it.

Jeff said we will close the Public Comment session, and go on with the Open Board Discussion.

Open Board Discussion:

Jeff stated he had a letter from Cornell University Cooperative Extension, Oswego County, which is currently undertaking an 8 year Agricultural District Review. It provides for the protection and enhancement of farmlands. It is a volunteer program. The second part of it is from the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation. They are cooperating on a program to update the Flood Insurance Rate Map, mapping needs in the community that are prone to development that have known flooding problems.

They will be having meetings, and Jeff said he could go to one of the meetings; either on May 15th or 16th, which is before our next Planning Board Meeting.

Jeff also had a communication from the County Planning Board as to the mandatory training on Planning Board Overview, Site Plan Review, and Special Use Permits on September 10th; and SEQRA and Enforcement of Zoning and Other Local Laws on September 11th.

Barry Pritchard brought up the subject of the driveway at the property next to the Little While. We talked about it last year. Quite a bit of constructions has taken place. It's going to be a rental business. He asked if we have heard anything from the Code Enforcement Officer, and we had not. Barry said we should approach him again.


At approximately 8:45 PM, Lee Phillips made a motion to adjourn the meeting. Fran Dellamano seconded the motion. All ayes. Motion carried.

Respectfully submitted,

Marjorie Best,
Secretary to Planning Board
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