August 20, 2007
Planning Board Minutes
Oswego Town Hall
Chair: Jeffrey Boyer
Town Board Members: Judy Sabin-Watson, Francis Dellamano,
Lee Phillips, Barry Pritchard, James Finn
Attorney To The Board: Stephen Greene, Jr.
At approximately 7:10 PM, Chairman Jeffrey Boyer called the meeting to order. He went down through the items on the Agenda.
Those in attendance were:
Those absent were:
Approval of July 12, 2007 Committee Meeting Minutes:
Since there were no comments or corrections, Jeff asked for a motion to approve the July 12, 2007 Committee Meeting Minutes. Barry Pritchard made the motion. Jim Finn seconded the motion. All Ayes. Motion carried.
Approval of July 16, 2007 Minutes:
Jeff asked if there were any comments or corrections to the minutes of July 16, 2007. Barry Pritchard stated that on Page 2, under Tom Dunsmoor's public comment "When the Board is all done with the documentation that is necessary, will this create a positive declaration? Jeff Boyer states Yes". This is not true. Jeff said it should state "That a determination will be made". Lee Phillips made a motion to approve the minutes with the modification, and Barry Pritchard seconded the motion. All Ayes. Motion carried.
Application #2007-10 - Joshua DeLorenzo - Special Permit - Used Car Business - Public Hearing - 7:10 PM:
Jeff asked Mr. DeLorenzo to step up front and talk about his proposal. The site is 347 Wall Street, and Jeff asked just where that is. Joshua said it is right off 104A, just prior to the Cayuga County line, technically right on the border of Oswego County. It is a R-4 Agricultural Zoning. He said he applied for the necessary paperwork from the DMV, and was told by the Code Enforcement Officer would reject my application because of the zoning out there, and would have to file for a special permit. He is talking about a part time job. He needs a place to park vehicles, and call a licensing facility. There will be no changes to the property as it currently stands. He won't be constructing on the premises, and the signage requirements fall under the current guidelines as far as the town is concerned. He has to put up a sign on the building 30î x 30î under New York State Law. He said he wouldn't be installing any other signs, or lights, or anything like that. There is access to parking, and there is a 4-car garage on the premises, which he could use for storage. Jeff asked if there would be any modifications to the existing property, and Joshua said no. Jeff asked where the access to the property would be from , and Joshua said from Wall Street there is a driveway. Jeff asked the Board if they had any comments on this matter. Barry asked if there is office space on the property? Joshua said unlikely, as he is not living at that property. We would be mostly talking over the phone. There will be no staff. He said he already has a full time job, so this would be a side line job. Barry asked how many vehicles would be parked at one time maximum. Josh said half a dozen at the most. The garage is accessible, so maybe outside, two or three. Barry suggested to Steve that we put a limit of the number of cars parked there to protect the neighbors. Joshua said he has no problem with that. Barry asked how many vehicles do the tenants have, and Josh said a minimum of 4. He said he has a tenant there now that has 1 vehicle. Barry said if he had 6 in the driveway, that would be odd for the neighbors to see. Steve said it would be under a conditional use approval. A Use Permit in an R-4 - under Section d, at no time should you have any more than 6 vehicles on the premises at any time. Jeff asked Marge if she had received any comments from neighbors, and she said no. Joshua said he had received a couple of phone calls from neighbors, as the letter was generic, and he didn't get any objections from them. They just wanted to know what he is planning to do. Jeff asked if he is going to put a sign by the road advertising his business. Joshua said he does have to have a sign that identifies the name of the business - any of the signage he will have will be under the 16 square feet. It will be affixed to the garage. Jeff asked for a motion to approve the Special Use Permit which will limit the number of visible cars of 6 that are out of doors - six vehicles maximum on the business property. That would be excepting any vehicles owned by the residents of the house. Steve said if a lot of cars show up there, you will have he Code Enforcement Officer showing up asking what is going on here. If they start storing friends cars there, it would be a problem. Joshua said if that were the case, he would have a problem. That will not happen. Barry made a motion that we approve the Special Use Permit, and Lee Phillips seconded the motion. All ayes. Motion carried.
Application #2007-03 - United Group - Oswego College Suites - Site Plan Review:
Jeff said it has been very quiet this month. None of us have received anything. Steve gave Jeff a letter from Michael J. Stanley, who is the attorney for United Group, and he quoted the letter written to Kevin Caraccioli:
I have discussed your letter of July 26, 2007 with my client. It understands the need for the Planning Board to have adequate time following completion of the SEQR process, and therefore United Group is in agreement with your suggestion that the sixty-two (62) day timeframe will commence at the time of the completion of the SEQR process.
As you know, United Group is available and willing to furnish any additional information required by the Planning Board o assist in its review of any aspect of the project, including environmental matters. Accordingly, if there is information that would be helpful, we would request that it be communicated to us as soon as possible.
Thank you for your cooperation in this matter."
So when approval of the SEQR is finished, the 62 day clock will start at that point. My discussion with Steve is that we get what information that we do have to the County to allow the County some time to review and get back to us with any additional information that they need as well. So I make a motion that in parallel to waiting for information from United Group that we get out our information to the County and start review from that prospective. Barry asked which one has the limitation of having the SEQR process done, going to the Zoning Board or to the County? Barry thought it couldn't go to one or the other without the SEQR being completed. Steve said because we have had the request out there for so long for additional information, we are going to get a guidance from the County. If they throw it back to us saying we need this done, or that done, our clock is not starting at that point. We are just trying to get the ball rolling. Jeff made a motion that we get the information to the County that we have thus far, site plan, application to get the County Review. Lee Phillips seconded the motion. All ayes. Motion carried.
Open Board Discussion:
Jeff said Judy was going to find out about the training sessions for September. He said he would give her a call. The sessions will be before our next meeting which is September 17th.
Barry Pritchard brought up a question that Mr. DeLorenzo had. The letter to the neighbors just mentioned a Special Permit. It did not explain what the purpose of the special permit was. In the future, we should be more specific in the neighbor's letter. It was specified in the Legal Notice, which is a different document than the neighbor's letter.
At approximately 7:30 PM, Lee Phillips made a motion to adjourn the meeting Barry Pritchard seconded the motion. All Ayes. Motion carried.
Secretary to Planning Board