February 18, 2008
Planning Board Minutes
Oswego Town Hall
Chair: Jeffrey Boyer
Town Board Members: Judy Sabin-Watson, Francis Dellamano,
Lee Phillips, Barry Pritchard, James Finn
Attorney To The Board: Stephen Greene, Jr.
At approximately 7:05 PM, Jeffrey Boyer, Chairman called the meeting to order.
Those in attendance were:
Approval of January 8, 2008 Special Meeting Minutes:
Jeff asked if there were any corrections or comments regarding the minutes of the special meeting. Fran said there had been some discussion. On Page 3, 2nd paragraph, last sentence - "A revised map will be submitted showing the owner's appropriation lines. In the future, if the owner wishes to pursue with the State for the parking spaces on their property, the Site Plan could be amended" Fran said he feels that is too positive. I think it should say "A Site Plan could be submitted for review". That is saying the same thing, but it isn't as positive. Fran said he would make a motion to that effect. Judy seconded the motion. All ayes. Motion carried. Fran made a motion to approve the minutes as corrected. Lee seconded the motion. All ayes. Motion carried.
Daniel Dorsey - Site Plan Review - Public Hearing - #2007-11 - 7:10 PM:
Jeff said this is for the addition of a loading dock at an existing structure. We have the notice of Public Hearing, a drawing, a response from a neighbor who is in Florida, and could not attend, and a letter from the Metropolitan Water Board discussing the right-of-way through their property. Jeff questioned the submission of an application for the Site Plan Review. Marge went through her folder, and found the application for the Zoning Board, but not for the Planning Board.
Rick Pratt and his son Ryan appeared with some concerns on the Dorsey proposal. Rick said they have property in the near vicinity of the project. Rick and the Board Members looked over the map, and showed just where his and his son's property is.
There was discussion as to the Zoning District, which is R-3. Jeff said we need the application to go forward with the hearing. Fran said that Marge mentioned Zoning Board, and wondered if it went to the Zoning Board first, which Marge said yes. Fran asked if it was approved. Marge said it was approved for the Use Variance for warehousing and recycling. Fran asked if the Zoning Board approve that they can do what they want to do. Marge said they approved the Use Variance, but we need a Site Plan Review, because they wanted to show where the trucks are going to park, and where the employees are going to park.
Jeff said we need the Application for Site Plan Review, and Steve also stated we need a deed or purchase offer, as through the discussion, the Dorsey's do not yet own the property.
Fran stated there are no conditional uses under R-3. There is a mistake when this was printed. Everything else has conditional uses under it, but not R-3. Jeff said he would get in touch with Greg Auleta, Chairman of the Zoning Board to straighten this matter out. Judy said they are working on the new Zoning Regulations, which should be next month.
Rick Pratt asked about the contents of the letter from the resident who is in Florida. Jeff quoted the letter from Stanley Nentarz:
"I wish to convey to the Planning Board that in the interest of all the residential property owners, I strongly recommend that the site be such as not to degrade the private homes by not allowing trucks and material be placed in front of the existing building, but an effort to keep trucks and material in the rear of the existing building. A screening row of trees, bushes, or such should be placed in front."
Jeff recommended that we table this, invite the applicant in, who will have to submit the application for the site plan review, as well as produce a copy of the deed or purchase offer.
United Group Documents.
Jeff said he talked to John Condino last month, and also talked to Jeff Smetana of United Group. It was found they are still compiling the information they need to complete the SEQR. They are hoping to have it ready by April. They did change engineering firms for the traffic survey. The only other activity he saw was the e-mail from Theresa concerning the location and ownership of the cemetery nearby.
Fran said he would like to make a motion. This is on United Group. We as a planning group is interested in seeing the other entrance, Mollison Road, pursued and that we may have problems as a planning group to approve the Site Plan without that entrance/exit. Fran feels that Johnson Road should be an auxiliary road, and that way we won't have all the traffic problems. Fran said we should write them a letter and tell them we would like to work with them. Barry stated what if the State says we can't go across their land. Jeff said he would get a letter drafted and get it out. After discussion, Lee Phillips seconded Fran's motion. All ayes. Motion carried
Jeff said SUNY Oswego is going to put dormitories or town houses on the Iroquois Trail. They have already submitted a Part I of the SEQRA In the cover letter, they want to be the lead agency, and unless they hear back from anyone, they will become the lead agency. Jeff asked for a motion not to be the lead agency in the development. Lee Phillips made the motion, and Barry seconded the motion. All ayes. Motion carried. Jeff said he would send a courtesy letter.
Judy said she wanted to go back to Mr. Dorsey again. The legal notice stated what he was supposed to bring to us, specifically the Site Plan to show where the loading dock and the parking lot.
Public Comment: None
Open Board Discussion:
Jeff said he had received a letter from Kevin, that the Washburn property - the State had gotten back with their recommendations for access into the hot dog establishment, and one of their recommendations was to close access on the Route 104 exit, and use Baylis as the main access. That was not included in our Resolution. Kevin was asking whether we had to go back and amend that Resolution. Jeff said his feeling is that it is too late. Jeff asked for a motion not to incorporate recommendation 5 from the State of New York Department of Transportation to the Washburn Site Plan Resolution to block off Route 104. Barry made the motion. Fran said we should have a reason for the motion. Barry said access and egress. Fran seconded the motion. All ayes. Motion carried.
Jeff said we now have two vacancies on the Board now that Mr. Finn resigned.
Jeff said if anyone is interested, there is a training - Local Government Conference in the Tug Hill Region. It is being held on March 27th at the Jefferson Community College in Watertown. It is open to the Planning Board and Zoning Board Members as well. It starts at 8:45 am, includes lunch and a reception, and ends at 5:30 pm. Jeff went over all the topics that will be discussed. Registrations must be made by March 7th.
Fran brought up wood burning that was brought up at the last meeting. Judy said it will be an accessory structure, and we have added it. Judy said hopefully the new Zoning Regulations will be out in March and everyone will get a draft copy. They will be here for people to pick up. There will be a comment form asking everyone to do written comments. Once everyone decides we can live with the revisions, then it will be presented to the public to get their input.
Secretary to Planning Board